Excellent question. Perhaps they do not know that Glenn Beck is an active, temple attending Mormon. Perhaps they are not aware of the covenants he makes each time he attends the temple. Perhaps they do not realize his faith—Mormonism—teaches doctrines that are contrary to the Bible. Perhaps politics is more important than truth. Perhaps they think an alliance of Christians and non-Christians will be beneficial to the country. Perhaps they just wanted to hear what he has to say. Perhaps they believe Glenn is a Christian, too. Mormonism is antithetical to biblical Christianity, so it is puzzling. But Gateway Church is not the first Christian organization to stand side by side with an active, temple recommend holding Mormons. Various churches and organizations aligned with the Mormons to defeat Prop 8 in California. An organization called Standing Together promotes a continuing dialogue between Mormons and Evangelicals about faith.
It is likely that the testimony that Glenn Beck gives to Christians is different than the one he might give in his LDS ward. In the LDS Church, a standard testimony goes like this: “I know Joseph Smith was a prophet of God through whom the gospel was restored in this dispensation. I know the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the only true and living church upon the face of the whole earth with which the Lord is well pleased. I know the Book of Mormon is true and the most correct book on the face of the earth today. I know we have a living prophet, Thomas S. Monson, who speaks for God. I believe in God the Father and in His Son Jesus Christ. I know that through the sealing ordinance in the temple, I can live with my family forever. In the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.”
This is why we tell the truth having been temple attending Mormons for 30 years and having worked in the temple for 10: first, to help the Mormons come to know the Christ of the Bible and second, to warn the Christians. After all, Mormonism gets most of its converts from evangelical churches. Christians need to learn about Mormonism, so they can make an intelligent, informed decision based on biblical truth. Then if they decide to form alliances with Mormons, they will know exactly what they are doing…
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I am a believer in Jesus as God. However, I am so tired of “christians” putting all their time, effort, passions and opinions into politics. Politics is not about grace. I don’t care what denomination you are…you won’t save the world. Only Christ did. I can’t stand Glenn Beck; he’s a shit stirrer. And ‘christians’ who have transferred their “zeal” from Christ, to living morally are the type I want to distance myself from. Of course I’m sure they wouldn’t claim me either. It’s just all so sad.
Please contact me about Robert Morris and Gateway supposedly church. First hand revelation of what is really going on there.
i was informed this morning 25th april 2013 Glenn Beck now is attending a bible believing church in texas is this true, has he repented of the mormon evil in his life ?
is he a masonic lodge member?
Gateway church is totally demonic. Watch the news, God is abou to expose the blood bath going on there. Do not be fooled by the charade.
What is your basis for saying this? Very judgemental. You have no idea how God is healing people and blessing people through this church.
Gateway Church is in Southlake, not Dallas.
I go back to the scripture : if they be for us who are we to say they are against us! I look at what Glenn Beck is doing, as one standing alone, in the desert calling out to those who are looking for more then what we can find today! Am I in support of the teachings of Mormonism, NO! Yet Christ uses all good and bad! I cannot point fingers when I have watched Glenn’s travels and see how God is using him! How dare we as Christians sit back and do nothing, and Condemn someone like Glenn Beck!
Mr. Patrick Huck,
I know for a fact that many of your claims have been brought to the leaders of Gateway and that there is no merit to them. You have slandered the leaders through your mass emails but yet you have not accepted their invitations to talk. Your claims are false and until you take your grievances to them face to face and follow through with the meetings, then I suggest you look in the mirror at who is being the christian here.
My impression is that Beck is not so concerned with doctrinal technicalities such as those expressed here; he was a down and out alcoholic at rock bottom after losing his career and family, and found God. His best friend and current radio companion Pat is a long time Mormon, and helped him to find God and thus his church. It could be that he’s honoring his loyalty and friendship to Pat more than he’s that wrapped up in Mormonism.
I don’t know this for sure, but I don’t think he’s up there trying to push Mormon doctrine on anyone. What he says is very general, yet his presentation is very powerful, and moving, IMHO. He may very well be serving to nudge people from total unbelieving to believing. That’s the hard part, and then we can argue over doctrinal details, if we feel we must.
I fell in love with the Gateway church in 2006 when i first visited. I left other ministry leadership options like serving as a pastoral staff at a different denomination to serve and attend at Geteway church. To me the integrity and the character of the leadership is very important and that was one of the reason my family have chosen Gateway. I am in serious prayer for the leadership of the Gateway church because I care and love this church.
I have not thought about this until i read this site.
I believe I need to pray for the leadership at the Gateway church.
My family have been attending gateway for past 5 years and I have other serious questions.
I pray that God wiil show me the way.
Gateway Church is not the first, nor will it be the last. I’ve been tracking these churches and Christian pastors for a while. See them at the following site: http://bit.ly/SDJu4a
i see no mention of gateway church or robert morris
Jesus said, “If it were possible, the very elect would be deceived” Answer: The only ones that will not be deceived are the very elect…all others will be deceived… Jesus said many shall come and say I am the Christ, and deceive many…Most miss this scripture thinking that individuals will say they are Christ…Jesus said they will say I am the Christ and deceive many…So many scriptures answer themselves: Example: These signs shall follow them that believe…Believe what…that these signs will follow them that believe…They cant follow you if you dont believe in them…Isaiah 53..starts…Who hath believed our report, and to whom is the arm of the Lord revealed…Answer: The arm of the Lord is revealed to those who believe the report…
As a past member of Free Masonary (I am a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ, and grew up in a Jewish Orthodox home)when I moved from Chicago to Arizona, I noticed the same fraternal spirit in Mormons and their rituals which had the same spirit of Free Masons…I later found out Joseph Smith was a mason…He instituted pagan rituals and acts into the false teachings of Christianity…Christianity is a direct revelation from God…Mormonism is a complete mental attitude, and a continued repitition of false self hypnotic teachings finally have the mind believe they are correct…It is a total mind game, being taught by repitition of false teaching, until the mind finally believes these lies…In leading Mormons to Christianity, it sometimes takes quit awhile until, they can be delivered from the false teaching they have been brainwashed with…
I attended Gateway Church for eight years and watched Pastor Morrison introduce Glen Beck as a “Brother in Christ” on stage via DayStar Network in January of this year. As a member of Gateway I was shocked to see Beck embraced as a Christian since everything I had seen and knew about Beck was connected with the Mormon Church. Sadly, I have since corresponded numerous times with Gateway Church through e-mails with Tom Lane (Senior Executive Pastor at Gateway). The e-mails were cordial and Pastor Lane said that Pastor Morrison had had private conversations with Beck and felt he was a Christian. I asked repeatedly when was it that Beck became a Christian and left the Mormon Church. Pastor Lane never gave me an answer as to when Beck became a Christian. I also corresponded with Pastor James Robison personally by e-mail and he also could not tell me when Beck became a Christian, though he insisted Beck is a Christian. With no honest answers and Beck still holding himself out as a Mormon, my family and I left Gateway Church and now attend church elsewhere. I saved the e-mails and would be happy to share those with anyone interested. Oh and by the way, Pastor Lane and Pastor Robison indicated in the e-mails to me they had at least a good working knowledge of Mormonism and its doctrines. So there is no claim of ignorance, though ignorance is no excuse. I guess just another sign of the times and itchy ears.
Chuck,
Thanks for sharing about the situation at Gateway. My wife and I and others left after Tom Lane and elders refused to meet & explain why they regularly give a pulpit to well known Mormons, New Agers, Univeralists, Buddhists, etc, (also at Bill Hybels annual Globalist Leader Summit).
I submit there’s a much bigger agenda being played out here. We are witnessing a growing network of leaders from mega-churches, TV networks and ministries willingly mixing and promoting false spiritual leaders (and their books/cds/etc) in the guise of peace, unity and universal brotherhood.
Jesus warned his true diciples/followers that in the last days there will appear many false prophets that could even deceive His elect. He also warned us about not receiving the “leaven” of the Pharisees & Sadducees (compromised religious leaders in positions of great influence, power & wealth).
I submit we are witnessing a new breed of “Pentacostal Pharisees” who are indroducing a new “hybrid leaven” into the body of Christ. This “false leaven” is a “Synthesized Gospel” about a “Seeker Synthetic Jesus”. In science, Synthetics are man made products created and mixed from natural materials to produce synthetic oil, materials, clothes, etc.
Today we are witnessing these Pentacostal Pharisees mixing (synthesizing) the truth of the Gospel with various man made religious belief systems and leaders. They are programming people with a kinder, gentler “Seeker Synthetic Jesus” that mixes easier with beliefs of Mormons, New Agers, Zen Buddhists, Universalists, etc.
Unfortunately, the real Jesus as revealed in the Scriptures and through the revelation of Apostle John is soon returning as a powerful Messiah and Lord God. These modern Pharisees and their Synthetic Gospel followers may instead be duped by their false prophet friends and the Anti Christ.
right back at ‘cha Brother, we will see won’t we. look in your own biblical history that is now so well documented – the Idea that Jesus, God and the Holy spirit were somehow one being or entity was a Nicean Council dictate, this was several hundred years after teh death of jesus. this is just one of the reasons that so many churches disagree on so many issues. I am a Latter day saint and Jesus Christ is my lord and savior and the savior of the world. I do not worship man i worship God and I have a great responsibility to be good and do Good. love you friend.
Hey Marge, The Nicean Council didn’t “dictate” the doctrine of the Trinity. It affirmed the Biblical teaching of it to put a stop to heresy in the church. The church councils served their purpose to preserve the orthodox beliefs of Christianity.
The heretical teachings of groups outside of orthodoxy only serve to confirm the need for such church councils.
The beliefs of Mormonism are really just a repackaged form of “arianism” in modern day. It was because of this particular heresy that the church leaders gathered at Nicea to study the scriptures, pray, and discern the Lord’s will.
The Mormons declare that they have the “corner on the truth”. When what they really have is an obsession with their own personal truth which is not consistent with the Bible.
I hope you will do your due diligence on this matter and fully research the history of your beliefs. I think you will find that they are not consistent with Jesus’ teachings at all.
hrmm, well if you had been actually attending Gateway for 8 years you would know his name is Robert Morris not Morrison. I’m afraid you damaged your credibility on that one.
Chuck I just attended Gateway today and someone there told me about Beck being a Christian. I was quite surprised since I just left Mormonism recently and knew Glen was also a Temple attending Mormon. Is there a way I could see your emails? I am considering looking for another church to attend because of this Glen Beck thing. Thank you Kathy Sanders saved4evernow@gmail.com
please talk to me. God gave me a big revealation about gateway. I was also a former member
Robert Morris preached one time at our Messianic synagogue, Baruch HaShem in Dallas, and it was a clearly God-inspired message. However, in his book The Maze of Mormonism, the late Christian apologist Dr. Walter Martin tells about one time when he was teaching a course on cults and he had two Mormon missionaries address the class.
The missionaries gave their standard spiel to the students. Martin recounts that the students were looking at him like he was crazy–”Why are you calling this a CULT?”
After the missionaries finished their standard spiel he asked, “Isn’t in true that Mormons believe …” and he listed several of their main non-Christian teachings. The missionaries’ response was, “Oh … we see you’re familiar with our religion’s teachings.”
When the students saw the missionaries didn’t deny him, they sat there with their mouths open, stunned that the missionaries could talk for so long and make it sound like their religion was mainstream Christianity.
What we’re seeing more and more is Christian religious leaders not bothering to look into the details. If someone says they believe in Jesus as their savior, the attitude is, “Look no further. We have no business criticizing fellow believers.” It’s sad, but that lazy, callous attitude opens the door to people being misled–”if major Evangelical leaders and leaders of mega-churches are vouching for someone, why should we listen to Pastor Joe Shmoe?–he’s probably just jealous.”
I also attend a Protestant church and years ago during a pray session I said something about Catholicism. One of the MINISTERS-IN-TRAINING said, “We don’t criticize other denominations.” I was raised Catholic. I told him it’s not “another denomination”, it’s a false religion and I started rattling off details. He was shocked and said, “I had no idea.”
what is more important- being Main stream or being GOD stream? the spirit of God that you say dwells in you will not lead you astray if you follow God’s word and listen to his voice(spirit in you)Don’t cast out what you don’t understand but don’t blindly follow either. pray study pray ask pray listen pray understand pray become more enlightened pray for confirmation rejoice pray in gratitude.
With all due respect, to those who believe Mormons are Christians, there is the distance of eternity between Mormons and Christians.
The Mormon Church teaches that men can become gods just like heavenly father who at one time was a human man and then through his own efforts became a god. He then had sexual intercourse with one of his wives and produced his son Jesus who is also the spirit brother of Lucifer. So Jesus is just one god in a universe of millions of gods each with their own planet.
Yes, Glenn Beck believes (if he is a Mormon in good standing) that one day he will become a god and receive his own planet to rule.
Joseph Smith believed this and taught this so did Brigham Young. The sad thing is Glenn is a smart guy who knows a lot about American history but is so dumb about who Jesus really is.
Jesus is not a god; He is God, Very God, second person of the Holy Trinity the one who spoke creation in existence. Within the One God, exist three co-eternal, co-equal, persons, not millions of gods that the Mormon Church teaches.
using the persons to clarify your answer throws you out of line with most of your own leaders interpretation. they are individual persons as you said and no one will ever be greater than God . God-ness is the ultimate. what more would GOD want from and for his Children than for them to have and be ALL that he is. Do you not grasp how humbling this possibility makes you. You cannot be God unless you are TOTALLY humble and full of pure God, at which time you would NEVER want to use your greatness to do anything but bring all others to you. every thing we achieve gives God greater Glory and it must be done with a pure heart never to make your self “
If we could become gods, the old testiment would be written quite differently than it is. Don’t you think God would have told us this important fact long long ago? And if He is a god, he would have ensured this important fact would not be lost or hidden but be clearly spelled out in his word and not lost. No, the Mormons did not restore His word, they created a religion that appears to the uneducated to mimics Christianity while still appealing to the natural man’s desire to be a god (Satan’s desire too).
I have never seen such a lack of discernment and a who cares attitude in all my life. Evangelical Christians are being duped/deceived left and right. Especially Christian radio/TV. I see many cults, and unorthodox ministries airing their programs on these stations. This is a real shame. many, not all, are only concerned if the check clears the bank. The Historic Christian Faith is being attacked from with-in Christianity. One well known Gospel artist, 8 time Dove award winner, author of many well known Gospel songs, Joel Hemphill, is one sad example. How one can attack the deity of our Lord Jesus Christ, and the Holy Trinity,have your BLASPHEMOUS materials on many cult sites, and still perform in Christian churches is very sad indeed. May God help us!
The horror is that thousands, possibly millions are led into some false other Jesus doctrine that takes them straight to hell on a pathway of good intentions. It’s just all so very sad, especially for those of us who are trying to see Mormon loved ones saved.
Does your God hold me responsible for and deny me Blessings because others deceive me?? WOW that doesn’t sound very christ like.
Marge,
If a person is continually deceived it is because they make a choice not to seek the truth, not to pursue a REAL relationship with the ONE & ONLY TRUE GOD. I know from personal experience that if your heart is sincere and you seek HIM and HIS Truth, HE will respond to you. (Jeremiah 29:13 “You will seek Me and find Me when you seek me with all of your heart”). Believe me there is a BIG difference between religious practice and an actual relationship with your maker. Once you truly know HIM and His truth no counterfeit will do. You need to stop blindly arguing and elevating your limited mind above the truth of GOD himself. If you don’t know the difference then you need to take the time to SINCERELY ask HIM to show Himself to you (not what you want to believe but what is actually true); you need to study and you need to pursue a real one on one encounter with HIM.
I personally studied and attended most of the faiths and churches of the world (over 50 over a 5 year period) before I joined The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Charles Simmons, Charles Brady, Rosie Grubb, Cathy, Concerned DFW Ministers, etc.- have you ever done likewise, especially of the LDS Church? I am in no way a supporter of Glenn Beck and his political views. If I would have realized that this information and this website was associated with John Ankerberg as I was searching for some updated information on Mr. Beck, I probably would not have even seen your posts here. But now that I have, please let me politely share with you that when you represent the LDS faith as un-Christian, it is nothing further from the truth. Dr. Ankerberg is far from an unbiased resource (I dare use the term of Dr. with tongue in cheek as some of his religious educational credentials (especially that of his PHD) are questionable)(try doing a Google search on questions and doubts of the veracity and authenticity of his religious education).
Why don’t you try what I did and find out for yourself what constitutes the LDS faith and belief structure?
If Mormons are Christians why do they try and convert other Christians to their church? Is there something wrong with their Christianity? Maybe what you really mean is the only people who are Christians are Mormons. Isn’t that what god told Joseph Smith in the 6th or 7th or ? version of His “1st” Vision “All churches and their professors were “corrupt”, and “all their creeds were an abomination in his sight”. That would be all churches including Christian are corrupt. So from a Mormon point of view the question is are Christians Christian.
Hi Dennis,
Some have studied and/or have been part of false faiths and sometimes this helps when conversing with people who are part of those groups but intellectual knowledge can never trump spiritual truth or a personal relationship with the one and only true GOD. I was once part of a false faith myself (received Jesus as a child and then led into a false faith as a child also) until the Lord led me back home to the truth. Once you know the truth (HIMSELF) you recognize a lie. I like to study and learn in order to be aware of what is being taught by other groups but nothing can shake me or alter the truth I know. Not because I am stubbornly (or in ignorance) holding to what I “think” is true but because once I had a real encounter with the Holy Spirit there is no turning back for me. Once the Lord began to speak to me through His Word (The Bible) and show me things I could have never known on my own-after that there is nothing else. I do not need to experience first hand every falsehood on earth because I already know the truth–PERSONALLY. Any teaching that does not line up with the Word of GOD is not of GOD.
Before anyone else bashes Glenn Beck, it would be helpful to review his own words on his beliefs. I think all will be amazed. The link can be foud here:
http://www.mrm.org/glenn-beck-soteriology
With all due respect, He still never denied his faith of being a morman. So he is basically compromising, which is no good. Remember the bible talks about in 1 Timothy how in the last days there will be people teaching false teachings…so we need to be careful. It may seem like truth but God’s word also speaks about wolves in Sheeps clothing. That’s why we have to take the time to research people and not just determine if their speaking truth based on what they talk about. That’s how we can be deceived. Yes, he did use scripture, but even Satan can quote God’s word (Satan used scripture when he tempted Jesus), so we shouldn’t let that fool us.
So many pastors and christians think Mormons are Cristian. They need to do thier homework. Mormonism is not even close to being Christian. Shame on Pastor Robert Morris. It really concerns me about our Christian leaders not knowing light from darkness. Thank you, Chuck Brady
its a true shame that pastors r not telling glenn beck the whole TRUTH… why can’t we all speak the truth about all these other so called ways to God when the word of Gods says its only ONE WAY n is through JESUS CHRIST…. what is happening to the church ? wake up and go read the word of God in the last days alot of false teachers will arise n we need to realy know the word of God to detect the false……
Hello!
I belong to Hope Baptist Church Las Vegas, our Pastor is a true Bible Teacher and very good from the So. Baptist Convention. I was shocked to hear about Glenn Beck’s testimony given at the Gateway Church, but was it recorded? How many witnesses were there who observed this? Pastor’s reaction?
I never heard of this Pastor, but I went to his website to listen to his last sermon, and he sounds VERY authentic as a true born again believer. Here is the link: http://gatewaypeople.com/sermons/140292
He claims he just had his spiritual birthday and has been a Pastor for 30 years.
I totally understand that we must stand for our faith especially in End Times, and Rick Warren is another one who seems to be involved in “New Age”, after having Meditation Type of Spiritual Authors on his website promoting a diet on his website last year, and watching “Wide is The Gate”, from Olive Tree Ministries. They said some pretty disturbing things about him and how he is leading his congregation astray.
John Piper also made a disturbing comment on his twitter account and I questioned it but he never responded. He put Allah and Jesus in the same context in regard to the resurrection.
I’m not sure if Glenn Beck has left the Mormon Church, but we need to find out, and possibly this Pastor has no idea who Glenn Beck is or had no time to research, or he was caught off guard we don’t know. It will be interesting to find out and someone should call him and speak in love and find out the truth first before we hang him out to dry, we must forgive our brothers and seek the truth, but if he did sin, then James 5:20 Turn him from sin and save a soul!
I’m concerned about the comment below as well, however a link to some proof would be worth a 1000 words!
Just wanted to share in Love concerned for a Brother in Christ.
Thank You!
God Bless!
Rosie Grubb
Yes it was recorded. The link can be found here:
http://gatewaypeople.com/sermons. Navigate to January 4, 2012 for Glenn Becks remarks. The sermon icon for that date will show a picture of Robert Morris since he spoke in the same service, but Glenn Beck begins the video.
I just went to that site and listened to what Glenn Beck said. He is probably searching spritually. Why else would he have had true born again Christians such as David Barton and others on his show when he had it. He also said on his show that he wanted to see and speak with Rev. Billiy Graham-which he did get to do. Also, he spoke on one of his programs that while on vacation with his family to some island, they visited a Baptist church and said it was great. Now, I feel he should have told the congregation that he is leaving the Mormon church-which would be an answer to many prayers by alot of his fans. BUT if he intends on holding on to his Mormon beliefs while attending a Bible beieving church,than I don’t think what he said when he spoke at that church means a whole lot. Maybe while attending that church, he might truly be born again and denounce Mormonism.
Dear Rev. Ankerberg,
Unfortunately, the issues at Gateway Church are alot more serious and go much deeper. We joined Gateway and found that Marcus & Joni Lamb of Daystar TV are members there also. However My wife and I and others left Gateway recently over this and other much more serious issues. They also sponsor Bill Hybels Globalist Leadership Summits every year which have alot of New Age, Unitarian and Universalists teaching Christian pastors at the Summit.
It’s also public knowledge that Gateway’s senior pastor Robert Morris and all elders require their staff leaders, pastors and directors to attend and join a group called “The Fellowship of the Sword” (FTS) (www.fellowshipofthesword.org ). FTS was started by Richard Henderson, the well known son of Texas’ Master Mason Henderson. Richard claims he received a vision of FTS’ concept on a mountain in New Mexico.
Ministers who attended FTS stated that they had to make secret oaths to one another, and that FTS is actually an occultic group that mixes Masonic, Shintoism (Busheido), Hinduism (Contemplative Meditation) Pantheism (Fire Worship), with a thin Christian veneer which is clearly seen on FTS’ website. A minister who was a former member of Gateway’s prayer team for 5 years recently left and started a deliverance ministry for families leaving Gateway and FTS. They helped my friend get deliverance after going through FTS. After joining Gateway and FTS his wife divorced him, and his family split up, but Gateway pastors did not try to help him. Out of desperation he called me just before Christmas threatening suicide. He testified to me and others that Gateway encouraged him to attend FTS which caused his demonization and spiritual demise.
A group of concerned DFW Ministers requested but were denied meetings with the Apostolic Elders over these and other issues. Your ministry needs to seriously look into these issues, especially since you broadcast on Daystar and their founders attend Gateway Church.
Concerned DFW Ministers
I just caught wind of this and am shocked and saddened by what I’ve seen and heard from Robert Morris and Gateway Church. Morris absolutely needs to be rebuked and reproved in truth and love. There is zero excuse whatsoever for allowing a self avowed Mormon to share his “testimony” (as if he is born again) before a community that professes to follow Jesus Christ.
Concerned DFW Minister, you have levied some serious charges against a brother and you’ve done so cloaked in anonymity. We as brothers and sisters in Christ are children of the light and we don’t hide in the dark. There is no reason for you to conceal your name, especially in light of the charges you levy against Morris and Gateway. If these things be so, present yourself plainly by identifying yourself. Then please supply us with some form, any form, of evidence that supports your claims about Morris, Gateway, and FTS. Thank you.
In Christ,
Kyle
Good words Kyle,
I am a member of Gateway and a former member of Trinity Fellowship in Amarillo under Jimmy Evans. I know that this needs to be addressed by Pastor Morris. My prayer is that Glenn Beck stands in Gateway saying he has accepted Jesus and is turning away from the mormon church. Pray that Robert will make a stand soon. Glenn Beck is not the enemy but Satan knows how to use any tool under his control. Beaware of the coming event in July. Serious warfare!
It absolutely amazes me that people designate themselves the judge of who is a Christian and who is not as well as having your own definition of what constitutes being a Christian. If you do some homework you will find that there is no such thing as the Mormon church. Its name is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and every member is a bible believer!
Concerned DFW ministers is obviously Patrick Huck who runs a one man ministry. His accusations about Fellowship Of the Sword and Gateway Church are irresponsible. Patrick, you are not anonymous anymore. Find a better avenue for your misplaced anger.
Stephen,
It is not people appointing themselves the judge of who is a Christian or having their own definition. It is holding any prophet and any teaching up to the light of GOD’s word; which is what we are told to do…(1 John 4,2 Timothy 3:1-7,2 Timothy 4:2-5,Romans 16:17-18, Galatians 1:8-10,2 Peter2:1-3, Acts 20:28-31, Matthew 7:15-23 and so on…. There are many scriptures in the Bible that teach us the importance of identifying those who are following after Jesus and those who are not and the difference between truth and false teaching. We are not to persecute those who do not know the truth (we are to minister to them) but we are not to follow after or fellowship with them either. There are those who take it out of balance but that is not the case here. What is being questioned and debated here are not minor differences but it is a foundational issue-that which can corrupt the truth of GOD and lead those in the body away from the truth and affect an individual’s eternity. Also, I think most know that the Mormon church is just a term being used in reference to the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints but the truth is that it is not a church and this organization does not adhere to the foundational truths taught in the bible and by Jesus Christ.
I am a Gateway Church member and have attended an Fellowship of the Sword event. I am not a pastor but I do have personal relationships with some of the pastors at Gateway. I understand that there are disputes and differences in the church community just as there are in the secular community. However, the accusations in your post do not ring true with me. I am a natural skeptic and not once have I felt manipulated or misled by any of the leaders at Gateway. I did not experience any requirement to make a secret oath to anyone at FTS. I know and fully understand the concern that some have with Glenn Beck being invited to give his testimony at Gateway, but I trust the elders to seek God’s will in this situation. I have seen Glenn and his family at several services and I believe that God can lead Glenn to the truth, the way and the life.
This is a comment from Patrick Huck. Google him. His comments are incorrect and irresponsible.
I may know which quest your are talking about concerned DFW. There was a man seeking aid from Gateway, but was pretty much ignored and sent on the quest…. which year? 2009? 2010? He was a heavy set guy with short curly hair. FTS gave me weird vibes after I came off my spiritual high after the quest. I even attended that convention in Fort Worth at the stockyards. Every ploy to get people to give money was used… FREE CANDLES… Richard Henderson kept pushing for people to give and was even trying to act as the Holy Spirit whispering “retirement fund” or “lifesavings”. I was turned off after that and my wife who wanted to do heart quest, felt spiritual pressure at that convention and was immediately turned off to it.
It is kind of cultish what they do. They lead you on some “spirit walk” and manipulate your feelings with pre-planned events that were coordinated with your loved ones. Like placing an item from home that was close to your heart with a letter from your loved one. Granted, I had legit spiritual experiences talking about my feelings and dark parts of my heart, I loved worship… it was after all that was said and done, your feelings for the organization were coupled with your spiritual experiences and subsequent high and then they throw you a tithing commitment form saying put the first # that pops in your head and tithe that amount.
Their flashy presentations (expensive) and push for money using your vulnerable spirit places me on the opposite side of the fence. They ruined it with the haggling, Richard Henderson ruined my trust to FTS, and I keep questioning the spirits about them and their motives.